Ok its simple in alot of ways. This movie will suck ass cause 1. hollywood is well known 4 destroying sumthing great by making a over the top, look at me movie. 2. they changed sum of the robots designs.. SIN!! the originals should have been used n the movie will suffer in the long haul over time espically due just to this alone.. 3. They mentioned that they have tried to direct this towards the newer crowd of transformers.. Pft... alot of whom love the touch me,look at me movies which is sumfin trasnformers have never been about... A chevy camaro. Oh please.. grow up...

oh n i 4got to add that this is goin to look sic!! (late night early morn*yawn) We sit at a time now where movies like this can b made cause we have a beautiful thing called "CGI" I'l go c it...

Going to be an absolutely awesome movie, Andy you are a tool!!! Both me and my son cannot wait for this fantastic visual spectacle based on something that I loved when I was a son. What a treat to get it turned into such a big budget movie, rather than the completely accurate C grade straight to video crap that Andy is after.

Please clean up your English before complaining about anything someone else does. I know, I know, grammar police. Right. If you want someone to take anything you say seriously, you have to prove you have the mental capacity to form an opinion.

I only buy high quality pirated movie DVD copies!!

But this time, I might consider buying a genuine copy

Complaining about a movie based on a cartoon, because it isn't just like the cartoon! Oh please grow up.

I have been a fan of the original Transformers since it's inception and it still holds a spot for me. But I am not going to see this movie.
The writer of this article may sit on his lofty throne and look down on guys like me with disdain... but here is the deal....

I want to see the original robot desigs.. that's what folks like me fell in love with, those are the images we had attachments to. This is a movie based on a cartoon, we already have suspension of belief. There is no need to make the robots look like 'realistic' robots. I am not looking for an R rating or anything, but I want to see the robots that are the Transformers, not the product of some egostistical director.

I don't mind the changes in Optimus as much as the horrendous monstrosity that is now Megatron. Megatron was the bad ass because of the fusion cannon on his arm. That design, that image was unique.

I will happily keep on watching the animated movie from the 80's. At least they didnt screw that up. Once more Hollywood takes something treasured and turns it into a joke.

people whine about how the designs have change, they dont look that good...blah blah blah and all that vaginitis. They tested on how the original designs would look on CG and it sucked to the point that it was too damn painful and stupid to watch.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BbK9rGhFYmQ

now if you think THAT version of Prime is a lot better, then you must have sniffed a lot of glue. just my 2 cents.

We are complaining about the movie not being like the cartoon, because:

1. You see a cartoon, and forms an element of your childhood.

2. As you grow up, you have fond memories of the cartoon and its childishness, but (if you're a fanboy) you re-imagine it in a more credible, grown-up way.

3. When you do this, you invariably try to keep everything as "authentic" to the childish cartoon as possible. And taking all "authenticity" information from the toy line as well. But update everything that made the original cartoon childish.

So, us fans really, *really*, REALLY were pining to see Optimus Prime in high definition CGI as a *red* Peterbilt 352 truck cab with a horizontal reflective white stripe and 84377 number plates. It would have been so awesome to see Prime that way, mixing it in with live action humans and locations.

And we *would* expect the producers to update things like the level of dialogue, the pace and nature of the plot, and the presentation of the story and action. It's just a sadly missed opportunity when you "re-invent" something so much that you just make a whole new story over the top of a "copied" core idea.

I will go to see this at the theatre. I will enjoy it for what it is. But I will keep dreaming of the way I would have had it done. Us fans are youngish adults now; I think when we get to retirement and have a lot of time on our hands, many of us will take our hands to personal creativity. And with even better home computer tech in 35 years, we may see some real gems coming out of the fanfic sphere then (albeit, still swamped by low quality stuff).

Kryojenix:

We are complaining about the movie not being like the cartoon, because:

>>1. You see a cartoon, and forms an element of your childhood.

I know exactly what you mean and feel. And you forgot to mention about the "magic" we all felt back then.

>>2. As you grow up, you have fond memories of the cartoon and its childishness, but (if you're a fanboy) you re-imagine it in a more credible, grown-up way.

Idk about fansboyism...never was with anything, but there's nothing fanboyish about re-imagining things with a bit more credibility to fit and go with the times. Take Spider-man for example....at the time when the comic was created, he was bitten with a radioactive spider. These days everybody knows that a spider can't be radioactive because the only thing that can survive such is a cockroach so that's probably the reason why they changed it to a genetically modded spider just to give it more credibility. It's an eyebrow raising change but it turned out okay. I think the same is happening here.

>>3. When you do this, you invariably try to keep everything as "authentic" to the childish cartoon as possible. And taking all "authenticity" information from the toy line as well. But update everything that made the original cartoon childish.

>>So, us fans really, *really*, REALLY were pining to see Optimus Prime in high definition CGI as a *red* Peterbilt 352 truck cab with a horizontal reflective white stripe and 84377 number plates. It would have been so awesome to see Prime that way, mixing it in with live action humans and locations.

I know what you mean, being a kid in the 80's myself. I do feel that Prime and the others have a bit of Bionicleish look to them but the CGed cartoon look just doesnt translate well to the screen.

>>And we *would* expect the producers to update things like the level of dialogue, the pace and nature of the plot, and the presentation of the story and action. It's just a sadly missed opportunity when you "re-invent" something so much that you just make a whole new story over the top of a "copied" core idea.

I agree. But that's the price we all have to pay for the sake of those who were unfortunate not to grow up and experience the cartoon in the 80's.

>>I will go to see this at the theatre. I will enjoy it for what it is. But I will keep dreaming of the way I would have had it done. Us fans are youngish adults now; I think when we get to retirement and have a lot of time on our hands, many of us will take our hands to personal creativity. And with even better home computer tech in 35 years, we may see some real gems coming out of the fanfic sphere then (albeit, still swamped by low quality stuff).

Exactly. I just hope more people will save the complaining and the whining till after they see the film. Who knows if the same thing happens to this movie as what happened with Spider-man (bashed to death before the release of the first movie then loved like hell after because it all turned out well despite the changes).

For me, this is my most anticipated movie of all...more than Spider-man 3, Pirates, or Shrek the third and im keeping my fingers crossed that they dont screw this one up.